Rewards and Dopamine; what happends when we clicker train? - Barnmice Equestrian Social Community2024-03-29T15:38:23Zhttp://www.barnmice.com/group/bodylanguage/forum/topic/show?groupUrl=bodylanguage&id=1773158%3ATopic%3A281257&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWhat great pics!!tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-13:1773158:Comment:2860572010-10-13T18:08:06.069ZCyndihttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/Cyndi
What great pics!!
What great pics!! amazing work you do....... my…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-12:1773158:Comment:2858732010-10-12T22:59:35.431ZJennifer Lammhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/JenniferLamm
amazing work you do....... my Oliver seems like a camel..... lol... he does not run away... yet, for food he seems very very intelligent and understands... maybe because he was orphaned and raised by humans he has less horse characteristics.. anyway, your training is so fascinating...... thank you for sharing.
amazing work you do....... my Oliver seems like a camel..... lol... he does not run away... yet, for food he seems very very intelligent and understands... maybe because he was orphaned and raised by humans he has less horse characteristics.. anyway, your training is so fascinating...... thank you for sharing. A:
I will pass on the great c…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2854082010-10-11T19:18:59.292ZEllen Ofstadhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/EllenOfstad
A:<br />
I will pass on the great compliments!<br />
She's actually 71 now that I think about it, but she is young in both body and spirit so I kind of forget her age.<br />
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And B:<br />
We were jealous of ourselves, too ;)
A:<br />
I will pass on the great compliments!<br />
She's actually 71 now that I think about it, but she is young in both body and spirit so I kind of forget her age.<br />
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And B:<br />
We were jealous of ourselves, too ;) HAHAHA!!
A) She's 70?!? She…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853752010-10-11T18:30:35.112ZMegan Hammockhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/MeganGarlandHammock
HAHAHA!!<br />
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A) She's 70?!? She looks GREAT!! Looks much, much younger than that!<br />
B) Man, I am so jealous.. :)
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A) She's 70?!? She looks GREAT!! Looks much, much younger than that!<br />
B) Man, I am so jealous.. :) That was incredible!! It was…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853742010-10-11T18:29:12.709ZMegan Hammockhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/MeganGarlandHammock
That was incredible!! It was funny how quickly he passed you the stick that last time--maybe the "OH, that's what you mean!" moment for him.. It did seem like he started putting the pieces together really quickly though.. I'm just impressed!<br />
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He's a beautiful boy.. he looked a lot less stressed and afraid than other captive gorillas I've seen near humans. I'd think that's a pretty good testament to that zoo, too ;)<br />
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On another note, Swedish is such a pretty language.. I tried to learn it once..…
That was incredible!! It was funny how quickly he passed you the stick that last time--maybe the "OH, that's what you mean!" moment for him.. It did seem like he started putting the pieces together really quickly though.. I'm just impressed!<br />
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He's a beautiful boy.. he looked a lot less stressed and afraid than other captive gorillas I've seen near humans. I'd think that's a pretty good testament to that zoo, too ;)<br />
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On another note, Swedish is such a pretty language.. I tried to learn it once.. Didn't get very far... Do you ever NOT have fun doin…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853672010-10-11T18:16:41.442ZMegan Hammockhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/MeganGarlandHammock
Do you ever NOT have fun doing what you do?? That is so awesome!<br />
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That is pretty keen of the gorilla.. That'll be cool to see the second part.<br />
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I had heard that some people chose to ride horses in the dessert because camels knew when to say "No, no more. I'm done." and horses would run themselves to death for their "master".. That is really sad. I'm sorry you had to see that.. :(<br />
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I definitely don't think that means the camels are dumb.. Maybe smarter in a sense, not that horses are…
Do you ever NOT have fun doing what you do?? That is so awesome!<br />
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That is pretty keen of the gorilla.. That'll be cool to see the second part.<br />
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I had heard that some people chose to ride horses in the dessert because camels knew when to say "No, no more. I'm done." and horses would run themselves to death for their "master".. That is really sad. I'm sorry you had to see that.. :(<br />
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I definitely don't think that means the camels are dumb.. Maybe smarter in a sense, not that horses are dumber--Just more willing and eager to please. Camels don't seem to have the "YAY A HUMAN!" thing down so much. Haha:) Not that I know much about them, but it was fun seeing and hearing about their difference.. MAN that would be fun to be able to train and work with them all.... This clip show the rest of th…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853622010-10-11T17:59:31.542ZEllen Ofstadhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/EllenOfstad
This clip show the rest of the gorilla training.<br />
He had just swallowed the banana bit and now it was a matter of getting him to do something.<br />
I had a little stick that I put in between the bars right next to his head, and when he looked at it (I figured he kind of had to do that) I clicked him and he got a banana.<br />
I did it again, he reached for the stick, and got another click and a banana….<br />
(notice I use a tongue click with him)<br />
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The third time I stuck the stick in, he grabbed it and took it…
This clip show the rest of the gorilla training.<br />
He had just swallowed the banana bit and now it was a matter of getting him to do something.<br />
I had a little stick that I put in between the bars right next to his head, and when he looked at it (I figured he kind of had to do that) I clicked him and he got a banana.<br />
I did it again, he reached for the stick, and got another click and a banana….<br />
(notice I use a tongue click with him)<br />
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The third time I stuck the stick in, he grabbed it and took it away from me. Another click, another banana. The next click was for him moving his hand toward the stick (I am now trying to get him to give it back to me), and from this moment on the film is showing what happens.<br />
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(I am speaking in Swedish and just giving instructions about what I am doing to the zoo keeper, it was her job to continue the training). Comments to the clip under it…<br />
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Keep in mind that this is the first session! He is trying to figure out how to get the click after only a couple of minutes, the complete session lasting for less then 5 minutes total.<br />
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Right before the two minute mark he quits trying a little, so I just wait for something little to end on a good note, and pay attention to the details that follows…<br />
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2.31 - he touches the stick. I had already decided to give him the rest of the bananas for the next thing and end the session<br />
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2.35 - I give him the rest of the bananas - he doesn't take them…? I got a bit puzzled by it and thought I had really overdone it for him the first time…<br />
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2.44 - he starts eating them slowly (other animals would just jump right in unless they were overwhelmed, but this guy did something different… !) He eats them one by one, quite slowly like he is thinking… and then…<br />
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2.58 - he had figured it out! he gives me the stick! the very thing I had tried to get him to do. I really think he did it on purpose after a little thought. I was totally taken by surprise and was slow to click. Thankfully I had a little piece of banana left to give him.<br />
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Then we let him go, and even though it seems like he goes after me in the end he is just using the bars to turn fast to hurry back to his herd. He has been away from his herd a lot longer than what he is used to, so this is more stress full to him than one might think. Despite that, imagine figuring out both the clicker and the task this fast!<br />
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Just for the record; he doesn't live in this cage!<br />
This is only holding pens for things like vet checks, and we could only do this for a few minutes at a time. They are not tame animals, but will have a better life if not stressed out by the presence of humans near them. The rest of the time he lives with his heard, he is the silverback male and even has a kid there - one of the few gorillas in capture that has bred. The purpose of them being in the zoo is to preserve this animals and hopefully save them from distinction.<br />
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The training goal is not to tame them, it is to make it possible for a vet to do health checks without having to use drugs which are very tough on the animals. I was truly amazed at how much consideration was given the animals by all the staff and the directors, and I have a whole new appreciation for the work they do at this zoo. Having said that, not all zoos are as good as this one.) This has me stoked to try thi…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853542010-10-11T17:49:16.797ZMegan Hammockhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/MeganGarlandHammock
This has me stoked to try this more with my girls! I was worried that being my sillier, more happy-go-lucky self would scare them.. But I guess they gotta get used to that ;)<br />
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Cool food for thought.. I guess that'd make sense considering their personable, social nature..<br />
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Kai hammed it up one night when I was scratching her.. The harder I laughed, the harder she shook her butt. I WISH I could've gotten that on film.. Affirmation to what you said, I think, about them responding to our laughter…
This has me stoked to try this more with my girls! I was worried that being my sillier, more happy-go-lucky self would scare them.. But I guess they gotta get used to that ;)<br />
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Cool food for thought.. I guess that'd make sense considering their personable, social nature..<br />
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Kai hammed it up one night when I was scratching her.. The harder I laughed, the harder she shook her butt. I WISH I could've gotten that on film.. Affirmation to what you said, I think, about them responding to our laughter and happiness:)<br />
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I wish we had all the time in the world and a personal jet.. It'd be so fun for you to just come here (or us come there) and just hang out.. Good times:)<br />
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I'm copying and printing what you typed--This will be REALLY helpful for both of my girls.<br />
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..Which reminds me.. I need to tell you about the awesome thing that happened with my skittish girl.. I'll put it on the other thread to keep it relevent:) We had fun like a bunch of ki…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853512010-10-11T17:29:14.597ZEllen Ofstadhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/EllenOfstad
<img width="300" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2164630231?profile=RESIZE_320x320" alt="" style="float: left;"/>We had fun like a bunch of kids! Just check out my mom (aged 70) after getting hit by a huge wave! ;))
<img width="300" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2164630231?profile=RESIZE_320x320" alt="" style="float: left;"/>We had fun like a bunch of kids! Just check out my mom (aged 70) after getting hit by a huge wave! ;)) I am going to live vicariousl…tag:www.barnmice.com,2010-10-11:1773158:Comment:2853462010-10-11T17:19:41.646ZMegan Hammockhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/MeganGarlandHammock
I am going to live vicariously through this picture while I sit behind my desk at work..<br />
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Talk about an amazing day! All lovely ladies!!<br />
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I take it you had fun? :)
I am going to live vicariously through this picture while I sit behind my desk at work..<br />
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Talk about an amazing day! All lovely ladies!!<br />
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I take it you had fun? :)