Thanks for inviting me Kat!

Thank you

I'm new to barnmice and this wildhorse group. I'm wondering if anyone has actually spotted any horses in the wild. In my limited research on the subject it sounds like Northeastern Nevada might be my best option. I've spent much time on my last three trips west trying to spot some wild horses but so far we've had no luck. I live in Michigan but try to make two trips west each year. So far the closest we've come to finding wild horses was finding wild burros and that wasn't very far from Las Vegas. Any advice?

check out Assateague Island, off the coast of Maryland- great place to camp and see lots of wild ponies, deer, etc-about a 10 hour drive from niagara falls and totally worth it

Thanks for the suggestion. We might be able to do that in April. I live in Michigan and am trying to arrange to go to the Parelli Celebration in Pennsylvania. We thought we might swing north to visit Niagara Falls. I've been told of a similar place on the coast in North Carolina. I still really want to see some wild horses out west.

I own a Mustang cross and I think that it is sad that America does not honour the Mustang horses, has they are native to the US. I wish that there were more wild mustangs today:(

Lexi, I just looked at some of your photos. You are very talented! It seems to me you have a good eye and a good imagination to look at things with a special eye to catch special 'feelings'. Looks like you have lots of fun doing different things with horses. Keep on enjoying! Very cool! And, I too hope more will be done to protect the wild horses all over this country. From the information that I've read, many people think there are too many wild horses and are still trying to thin the herds. It's a sad shame.

I publish a digital magazine that helps to raise awareness of the wild mustangs, horses and burros in the USA
www.truecowboymagazine.com
VIVO LOS MUSTANGS!
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cute pics who put them on

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SO HAS ANYONE ACTUALY SO ANY HORSES OR PONIES IN THE REAL WILD ????????????????????

I have seen wild donkeys in Nevada on the open range and then there is a tourist spot at Oatman, Nevada where the donkeys come in to visit most the time. I have not seen wild horses yet but still searching. I have a friend that saw some near death valley. We drove from Vegas to California last December and had no sightings. I asked many local folks on that drive if they ever see wild horses and everyone I spoke with said that wild horse sitings are very rare anymore and it's been that way for several years now. There are maps available on the internet that map out areas where there are suppose to be wild herds in several western states. They manage to round some up each year to reduce the size of the herds so they must be out there somewhere. Let's keep looking!

I think that there is a protected area in North Dakota were some wild horses live. We were going to go there some time but havn't. You coulod look it up.

We saw a wild mare and foal out in monument valley in Utah years ago. All by theirselves in the middle of nowhere. Couldn't even tell what they were without binoculars. BLM brings the mustangs here to the Lexington Horse Center in Va. every year to auction off. It is heartbreaking to watch. No one bids on them and they practically give them away. But, no takers.Some of them are just gorgeous, and they are all just worn out , misereable and filthy from traveling in those stock trailers. Especially the little babies. You can actually go to their web site and buy one and they will deliver it to any place near you that there is going to be one of these auctions.
The BLM is supposed to care for them, but the lands they oversee are all rented out to cattle farmers, so they are removing the mustangs supposedly because there is not enough grazing for them and the ranchers cattle. Seems to me if the ranchers don't have enough land to support their cattle, maybe they shouldn't have so many cattle, if they are going to remove all the wild animals on the Gov. land so their cows can have it. Has the BLM forgotten what they are supposed to protect? It boils down to money, and the mustangs can't pay the rent for their own land and lives. This is just my opinion.

I live in AZ and know quite a few people who have adopted BLM horses. I would love to find some place that is close where I could watch htem. I would like to draw and paint them from life.
Gene Prage has wonderful photos. Also, Madaline Pickens is working with the BLM to have some land set aside for the wild horses. If anyone knows of herds in AZ, UT, or NM, please let me know.

I am just starting to figure out why we are having trouble finding wild mustangs. They are being captured and kept in holding pens. They are now trying to get clearance to do away with these wild horses. Any of us that are interested in helping the mustangs remain 'alive' and free must get active in checking this out and helping to get information to people so they can stop the slaughter of these animals. So far the best information that I've found is on u-tube by Madeline Pickens. Please go there and ck it out. Something has got to be done! It would just be so WRONG if the thousands of mustangs in holding pens were slaughtered.
Please send letters and help others know about the work that is a MUST!!!!

I agree that wild horse slaughter is a very horrible thing. I did a report on horse slaughter and what they do to kill them is sickening. It did the report in french(as I go to a french emersion school) but Iwill try to translate it some time and post it on Barnmice. Horse slaughter is horrible and should be stoped periode. In the US I think there is only 1 or 2 slaughter farms, in Texas and Ilinois. In Canada there are quite a few more. But even though horse slaughter is illigal in the US, many meat buyers send all of the horse they get at auctions to Canada or Mexico. Horse Slaughter must be stoped everywhere, as it is a much bigger problem than we think!!!

Dear friends, I thought you'd want to know the progress being made to help save the wild horses that have been in danger of a mass slaughter.

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2009/04/183.shtml

Details of BLM wild horse proposals revealed

June 16, 2009

The life of wild mustang Cloud has been documented since his birth. His herd, from the Pryor Mountains in Montana, is under threat of being rounded up and "removed".

Documents obtained from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) by a horse welfare group outline discussions and plans over ways to reduce mustang numbers.
The material was obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by The Conquistador Program.

The documents reveal what it calls shocking and detailed plans to destroy healthy wild horses in government holding facilities as well as those still remaining in the wild on public lands.

BLM employees as well as a US Department of Agriculture veterinarian held weekly "Implementation Team" meetings beginning in July of 2008 in which they discussed and developed strategies aimed at reducing mustang numbers.

In October they completed a 68-page document entitled "Alternative Management Options".

The BLM team created scenarios for killing mustangs using barbiturates, gunshots, or captive bolts. Bodies would be disposed of through rendering, burial or incineration. They discussed killing 1200-2000 wild horses per year.

The document states that "the general public would be prohibited from viewing euthanasia". Additionally, it was felt that "increased support from public relations and management staff would also be needed to insulate those doing the actual work from the public, media and Congressional scrutiny/criticism".

Ginger Kathrens, filmmaker and volunteer executive director of The Cloud Foundation, dedicated to preserving wild horses on public lands, said: "Despite a huge outcry from the American public last year regarding BLM plans to kill wild horses in holding, the agency is still pressing forward with a plan to destroy our American mustangs both on and off the range."

However, division chief of the Wild Horse and Burro Program, Don Glenn, told The Cloud Foundation that "no decision has been made to move forward on a large scale with this plan, yet".

BLM meeting minutes include the following observations:


"Security at facilities and at gathers would need to be increased to combat eco-terrorism."

"Having the people that are willing to put down healthy horses at gather sites could be a problem."

"Having vets putting down healthy horses at preparation facility[ies] could also be a problem."

Meeting minutes reveal the psychological toll that employees would pay - "have counselling for employees and contractors that have to euthanise the healthy horses because it is very stressful."
The report created an option in which wild horses of all ages could be sold "without limitation". The team admitted that "some wild horses will go to slaughter".

Karen Sussman, president of the International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros, said: "Once they are gone, they're gone. To lose this incomparable species would be a travesty."

Conversations in the minutes included how many wild horses could be rendered at the Reno Rendering plant or "disposed of in pits". The team concluded that "there will not be large numbers of horses euthanised during gathers or in the field. This is due to state environmental laws."

Recommendations include the creation of gelding herds, and sterilisation of mares to create non-reproductive herds in the wild in place of natural herds.

The team recommended changing the sex ratio from the normal 50% males and 50% females to 70% males and 30% females. Then the experimental two-year infertility drug, PZP-22, would be given to all mares that are returned to the wild. Plans call for rounding up the wild horses every two years to re-administer the drug.

"Mares on the drug will cycle monthly and, with the altered sex ratio, the social chaos will be dangerous and on-going," Kathrens explains. "Any semblance of normal wild horse society will be completely destroyed."

Kathrens has spent 15 years in the wild documenting mustang behavior for her PBS television documentaries which chronicle the life story of Cloud, the now famous pale palomino stallion she has filmed since birth.

"Even Cloud and his little herd in Montana are in serious danger if BLM implements these options," she continues. "The BLM plans a massive round up in Cloud's herd beginning August 30, 2009."

The BLM will not guarantee that Cloud and his family will remain free.


The BLM documents referred to above and photos of wild horses are available from www.thecloudfoundation.org
Horse slaughter in the news

Oh, Please don't delete the group. The wild hroses do really need us to be concerned and active for them I just got an email last night about the most recent news on the situation in Nevada. It makes me just sick!
It reads;
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has announced a plan to zero out 11 wild horse herd areas (HAs) from Nevada?s Ely district. BLM purports to justify the wholesale elimination of the herds by blaming the horses for environmental damage while ignoring livestock impact, past and present, and other factors. For example, no consideration is given to the role that cattle fences -- including those that deprive horses of access to water -- are playing in unnaturally constricting the movements of the horses. The 11 Herd Areas represent 1,386,992 acres and are home to only 620 wild horses, or one horse per 2,237 acres! Yet BLM still means to tell us that in these vast areas wild horses are overpopulated and destroying the ecosystem.

Please protest this gross waste of tax-dollars and mismanagement of our natural resources by contacting the following:

- John F. Ruhs, District Manager, Ely District Office, BLM, HC33 Box 33500, Ely, NV 89301-9408 john_ruhs@blm.gov
- Ruth_thompson@blm.gov
- Benjamin_noyes@blm.gov
Comments must be received by Monday, July 6, 2009. Please include your name and address and the following reference: 8560(NVL0000) - Notice of Proposed Action: Elimination of all wild horses from 11 Herd Areas.
These wonderful, beautiful, grand, freedom representatives need us to be more active for them. Our horses do so much for mankind and we need to give back.
Shirley

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Hey Kat!
It would be a real shame ifyou deleted this group. The wild horses need advocates and people like you to help raise awareness. This could be a really good educational forum on the plight and beauty of wild horses.

Please reconsider ... or I might have to start another one ...

ok, i'll keep the group! i justr didn't think alot of people liked it

www.wildhorsepreservation.org

I really like this group Kat. DO NOT delete it!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Restoring Our American Mustangs (ROAM) Act - HR 1018, introduced by U.S. Representatives Rahall and Grijalva, passed in the House of Representatives this morning. The bill amends the Wild Free-Roaming Horse and Burro Act by adding important new protections and provisions, such as the banning of helicopter round-ups and the reclaiming of land lost by America?s wild horses over the past 30 years.

Thank you so much to all who raised your voices in support of this critical piece of legislation. Now we need to prepare for the Senate vote!

On behalf of the horses, thank you for your support,

The AWHPC Team
American Wild Horse Preservation Campaign
www.wildhorsepreservation.org
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I am glad I found this group. I used to have a Mustang, but he belongs to one of my best friends now.

This is my four year old mustang Oliver Idaho Simuh.... he is shoshone from Nevada and his entire herd was spared by one lady that now runs the Wild HOrses in Need Foundation. I have to learn alot more about domesticated mustangs, but he's my pride and joy... not the easiest horse in the world, but still a loveable equine.

On the easel: Among the Mustangs- from the Wild Horse herd

The more I learn about Mustangs the more I respect my Oliver... who lives in the city..... he is so good..... Mustangs apparently pick their people.... Oliver told my physic that this is our third lifetime together and he waited in the spirit world a long time looking for me.... I've had him since he was 8 weeks old..... :)

That's so awsome Jennifer. I believe this of all animals. Not all of them are as lucky as Oliver to make the right choice or as lucky to find someone as special as you. Enjoy each other.

Hi Tina. I'm not sure why he picked me in this lifetime though.... I barely even know how to ride, I don't remember our 3 lifetimes together and sometimes he seems like alot of horse for a cityslicker.... but I think knowing this and believing it, keeps me going.... I mean he said we have 30 years to figure it out.... I'll be 80 by then.... and hopefully a very very good rider if he helps me learn. :) He said we were in the Pony Express... maybe it will all come back to me... and we can go flying along the.... freeway? LOL.... Thanks for reading!! Jen and Oliver

Jen, your pics are wonderful. Oliver is your soul horse, Sista!

It is so exciting to feel that you belong together. I feel that way with my percherons. I picked the mom out of pictures on the internet from a PMU farm and I just had this feeling she was the one. Will have to tell you the whole moving story about mine sometime when I have a while to write it all.

Hey Marti, You are impressed with Jennifer and Olive too. Why doesn't that surprise me. Great people attract to each other. This is a wonderful story isn't it?

Last night I watched Horsenalities by Linda Parelli... well Pat, but you know what I mean.... he is such a left brainer, LOL.... he is gonna be fun fun fun.... I can't wait to learn more....

Jennifer. If you have time, could you please elaborate on this ? I'm having trouble filling in betwen the lines.

According to the Horsenality graph, Oliver is very left brain.... Mischevious, naughty, playful, so he will be fun to play with..... he loves games. So learning games that he will like is going to be fun fun fun... we play whatever games I make up. I don't go necessarily with anyone in particular, but I enjoyed the Horsenality DVD. :)

My Cash is left brain-Introverted. If I don't keep things interesting..he'll jump in and make them interesting for me. It is fun!
I like to learn things from different people too as most have things to offer to help have better horse experiences and help me be a better horse-person.
Keep Enjoying!

The whole thing is interesting, but honestly, both of my horses had some attributes in all quadrants, so I'm not sure what all that means... Oliver has some of the introverted tendencies too but I can't remember them off the top of my head... he doesn't kick, but he is more of a charger.... it is all about his big fat head with this horse, and he's mouthy and food oriented, so that is why I said he is Left Brained..... it's on both sides.. I think she called that bipolar... nice. huh. :) Hugs to cash... we love making horse friends... we are kinda isolated where I live... eventhough people ride all around my area.. me and Oliver don't go out much because of his brattiness around strangers, so we have got SO MUCH WORK to do.... as well as fun. :) Oliver is not scared of people at all and will charge em right down.. my other horse Toby, OmG, he is so shy.... they are do different. I LOVE that!! I haven't decided on Toby all the way yet. He is actually more of a challenge than goofy old food hog Oliver, LOL...

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"Are They Still Real?"
A young girl's question rings true as we continue to lose our herds of wild mustangs to uncontrollable mismanagement by our own government. Here is an update on Cloud's capture and release and what you can do now. Plus a preview of the new show!


Dear Friends of Cloud and his herd;



On September 9th six of us stood atop a low hill near the corrals where the Pryor wild horses would be set free. The first band to be released was Cloud’s. But, the family was missing the young members of the band and Cloud knew it. Instead of racing to freedom as he has done twice before, he dashed in a circle around his mares and lone foal, Jasmine. Again and again he tried to snake them back toward the corrals where part of his family was held captive.



It is the stallion father’s job to keep the family together and we saw a display unlike anything I have ever seen as Cloud swept past his band trying to keep them from returning to the mountain top. The whole time wranglers on horse back drove the band and yelled at the horses, trying to get them to leave. Cloud paid no attention to the riders on their tall horses. Instead he tried in vain to reunite his splintered family. In the end the mares won, racing away with Cloud grudgingly following. With tears in our eyes, we watched him disappear into the desert.




Two days earlier we had stood on high hill over looking the corrals watching as bands were driven in from the mountain top through the desert. My heart dropped as I spotted the pale horse in the distance with his band. It was Cloud. The helicopter pilot dipped and swerved, doing its best to bring his family in through the desert foothills. With the Black in the lead, the band broke back time and again, as if knowing what lay before them. Finally, the helicopter was able to press them into the wings of the trap and Cloud took the lead. The Judas horse was released and raced past him. What happened next was a first for me. Cloud completely ignored the lure of the Judas horse! When the corral came into view he slowed and the band pushed in around him, trying to run away from the helicopter. Dust swirled around them as Cloud stopped and turned to face the chopper and stood still for a few seconds. Then, he turned following his family into the corral. I have never seen this kind of defiant courage . . . ever.

And so, I ask that we take his lead. Courage is what we need now. Courage and tenacity.

We must keep up the fight.


photo above: Living Images by Carol Walker


SHOW PREVIEW HERE. The new PBS Nature Cloud program, "Cloud: Challenge of the Stallions" will premiere on Sunday, October 25th - many of the horses you will meet in this third chapter now sit in pens at the base of their mountain home. Please help us lobby for the release of the older horses immediately. You can read and follow our frequent updates on The Cloud Foundation blog here.

TAKE ACTION NOW:

Ask for the release of the older horses from the Pryor Mountain roundup, it is cruel and nonsensical to remove Grumpy, 21 year old mare, Conquistador, a 19-year-old band stallion, and the 11 other horses over ten years old. Ask for the immediate reform of the BLM’s Wild Horse and Burro Program, call daily and fax your comments as well!

1. White House Switchboard – 202-456-1414 (fax: 202-456-2461) -- Ask for Senior Advisors: Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod. Ask for Michelle Obama too, her office is receiving a tremendous number of calls and they need to continue.


2. Call your Senators – switchboard 202-224-3121 and ask that they support S1579, The Restore our American Mustang (ROAM) Act


3. Call the Senate Committee of Natural Resources – 202-224-4971 (fax 202-224-6163) Email here. ask that they push the ROAM Act through immediately– it must go up for a vote soon in the Senate


4. .Join us for for the next Advisory Board Meeting and "Mustangs on the Hill"- Sept. 28 & 29th

Please join me and many others at the National Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Board Meeting in Arlington, VA on September 28th (click here for information). Make your voice heard – and then join us in DC on the hill for meetings with key members of the Senate as well as upper-level whitehouse and Department of Interior staff the following day. Our wild horses' hoofbeats need to be heard in Washington DC! More details to follow to be posted on our blog soon.








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Saturday night I went to a Lacey J. Dalton concert with some friends. She is a great supporter of the wild horse, and the Wild Horse Sanctuary in Shingletown, Ca. And her concert was fab!

Final count some way off on Wild Horse Adoption Day

September 28, 2009

Wild horses across the United States went under the hammer at the weekend, as part of a nationwide effort to rehome 1000 mustangs in one day.
Organisers of the National Wild Horse Adoption Day, said in a brief update on Facebook, that while the official day - September 26 - has come and gone, more events continue.

"Good reports from many areas, although several eastern locations had heavy rains and little or no turnout.

"Total adoption numbers will be reported in mid-October."

In the most-watched sale among the 35 staged on the day, all 57 wild horses taken in the controversial Pryor Mountain muster were rehomed.

The muster faced fierce opposition from wild horse advocates, who argued that the genetic viability of the herd, made famous in a series of documentaries, was under threat by the muster.

The Cloud Foundation, which led that campaign, reported that four bands of horses, 15 in total, including Floyd and Conquistador and his mare, will be kept together at a ranch.

"Ember and Image get to stay together, have a great home. Also adopted into great homes were Arrow, Rain, Helena Montana, Stiles, Cassidy, the lame foal with his mom, who is looking better, and Ginger got Sax."

The 19-year-old stallion, Conquistador, attracted the highest bid, of $US2500.

The foundation offered its thanks to those who contributed to a freedom fund and other supporters. "This is a big win."

An estimated 2000 mustangs were offered across the US during the day, a small portion of the more than 33,000 held in captivity by the Bureau of Land Management.

The auctions took place at 35 venues in a collaborative venture with animal welfare groups.

The adoption tally for all of last year was 3700.


Wild horses in the news

This is copied from my Parelli weekly newsletter. MUSTANGS

Parelli Celebration Highlights Humane Society
of the United States Rescue Horses

This weekend at the Ft. Worth Celebration, Pat played with Thistle, a sweet-natured five-year-old mustang who was rescued during a large-scale neglect investigation in Nebraska earlier this year. Since the rescue, Thistle has been under the care of the Doris Day Horse Rescue and Adoption Center until he arrived in Ft. Worth on Thursday. Each day of the Celebration Pat played with Thistle, and by the end of the third day Pat was riding the mustang without reins leaving many saying this was the best training session they have seen Pat lead. It was truly amazing to watch, and the experience is first hand proof that the Parelli method can help any animal if you put the relationship first. Read more about the Parelli Humane Society of the United States partnership here. Following the event this weekend, Thistle was made available for adoption to a selected, loving home.

Has anyone actually contacted any of the referenced numbers and political people recommended to try to help save the wild horses?
I have gotten carried away with some personal issues and have NOT done this. WE MUST TAKE THE TIME if it really matters to us and ME!

I was gone for a few days. I went up to my friends house in Shasta and on the adventures of the weekend, we went to the Wild Horse Sanctuary in Shingletown. They rescue horses and have fun activities there. If you'd like to see the website for donations to their sanctuary, you can go to wildhorsesanctuary.com

www.madeleinesmustangs.org has an interesting promotion going for people that love football.. and live in texas... check it out!! proceeds go to the mustangs!! Jen

Can we rely help the wild mustangs?

http://wildhoofbeats.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-09-02T17%...

Wild horse pictures!
They really do still need our help. And we need their help to sooth our souls in being able to view them "LIVE" or via pictures of those that have been able to get up close. So truly AWESOME and spectacular! There is o much more to wild horse herds then I had any idea till I started doing some research. They have such a neat family organization with-in their herds. Amazing~~such grand horses to be protected when they can't protect themselves. When it is their natural pretedors they are resisting they have some intuitive protections to resort to but when it's cruel humans that are after them they have little hope except when the kinder humans choose to stand up and try to help defend them. The most we can do now is use our fingers and our mouths to write and dial and voice our stand for these beautiful animals.
I'm surprised to see there has only been one comment on this issue this year. We must be more active if they are to be helped. .

I cant beleive people can stand to try to reign in these beautiful free spirits. I've watched some of the many wild horse videos, and they really are amazing.