Comments - EVEN MARK TODD CAN BE LED ASTRAY - PART 7 - Barnmice Equestrian Social Community2024-03-29T13:52:06Zhttp://www.barnmice.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=1773158%3ABlogPost%3A141532&xn_auth=noNo, not you William, (after a…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-10-13:1773158:Comment:1629762009-10-13T23:49:45.995ZGail Rogershttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/GailRogers
No, not you William, (after all you chose Hyperion!);) one of the people who posted a comment after your blog. I didn't want to centre anyone out however, so spoke generally.<br />
I'm glad to hear you agree with me 100% (that is a great number!!!) ;)<br />
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talk to you soon,again,<br />
Gail
No, not you William, (after all you chose Hyperion!);) one of the people who posted a comment after your blog. I didn't want to centre anyone out however, so spoke generally.<br />
I'm glad to hear you agree with me 100% (that is a great number!!!) ;)<br />
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talk to you soon,again,<br />
Gail Gail..good to hear from you a…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-10-05:1773158:Comment:1613472009-10-05T20:14:59.343ZWilliam Micklemhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/williammicklem
Gail..good to hear from you again...I agree 100% with what you say...but I didn't suggest going to a coarser TB...must have been someone else...talk to you again...William
Gail..good to hear from you again...I agree 100% with what you say...but I didn't suggest going to a coarser TB...must have been someone else...talk to you again...William I am coming back again to thi…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-10-05:1773158:Comment:1612522009-10-05T18:27:49.082ZGail Rogershttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/GailRogers
I am coming back again to this subject because the comment that we need a "return to the <u><i>coarser</i></u> TB" is something that I have to disagree with.<br />
If one just looks at the picture of Hyperion - that alone contradicts this concept.<br />
He is the epitome of the 'typey' Thoroughbred - and beautiful and perfect. Not one bit coarse.<br />
I often hear people lamenting the loss of the 'old' Thoroughbred - but if you look at pictures of Thoroughbreds from the past -there is very little difference.…
I am coming back again to this subject because the comment that we need a "return to the <u><i>coarser</i></u> TB" is something that I have to disagree with.<br />
If one just looks at the picture of Hyperion - that alone contradicts this concept.<br />
He is the epitome of the 'typey' Thoroughbred - and beautiful and perfect. Not one bit coarse.<br />
I often hear people lamenting the loss of the 'old' Thoroughbred - but if you look at pictures of Thoroughbreds from the past -there is very little difference. Who would not want to put a saddle on Secretariat? for example? or Spectacular Bid? Either one would probably have made a spectacular eventer or jumper. I saw both of them trot across their pastures at Claiborne, and both would make you drool.<br />
Or even further back, look at Royal Charger (1942) or Nearco (1935). Can anyone point out the difference between these and modern Thoroughbreds?<br />
There are of course better and worse individuals within the Thoroughbred breed, and variations in types - but in my opinion at least - the type is set.<br />
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What is different, what has changed, is the way they are trained, the races that are written for them - the incredible pressure on precocity (especially in North America), the expense of racing, and the need for horses to win early as two years olds. If the races are written for 6 F that's what the horses race at. They don't get a choice.<br />
But the horses, I believe, are the same.<br />
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William, thank you again for your encouragement, and for this beautifully written and informative series.<br />
warmest wishes<br />
Gail We all start as underdogs...g…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-30:1773158:Comment:1457382009-08-30T23:38:06.622ZWilliam Micklemhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/williammicklem
We all start as underdogs...great to hear of your wonderful attitude...continued good fortune to you Lisa and good luck with the C of the H project. William
We all start as underdogs...great to hear of your wonderful attitude...continued good fortune to you Lisa and good luck with the C of the H project. William i will be getting some covera…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-30:1773158:Comment:1457142009-08-30T22:19:49.460Zlisa rasmusonhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/lisarasmuson
i will be getting some coverage in the chronicle of the horse. around mid october they are starting up a new web magazine, and will be doing an ottb retraining theme for one of them. anyways, molly sorge (sp?) interviewed me by phone yesterday. and i am very grateful for the coverage. the chronicle is my favorite publication : )<br />
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i started awards for ottbs back in 2003 all in the honor of my ottb, hell's angel ( bobbie). two award programs are run through my local usdf gmo's. another award is…
i will be getting some coverage in the chronicle of the horse. around mid october they are starting up a new web magazine, and will be doing an ottb retraining theme for one of them. anyways, molly sorge (sp?) interviewed me by phone yesterday. and i am very grateful for the coverage. the chronicle is my favorite publication : )<br />
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i started awards for ottbs back in 2003 all in the honor of my ottb, hell's angel ( bobbie). two award programs are run through my local usdf gmo's. another award is given to members of the north american tb society who are usdf all breeds award winners. the other thing i do is a grant in education for adult amateurs riding ottbs. the horse and rider can be of any discipline but must take lessons with a licensed judge or certified dressage instructor. i also am a sponsor for a local tb charity show. the point of my awards and grant is to promote the ottb as a suitable mount for the adult amateur rider, and to get the word out that you can take an ottb, retrain and rehabilitate(if necessary, many do retire perfectly sound), compete respectably and be awarded for it. awards shouldn't just go to the person who spent the most money. awards should go to people willing to do the hard, dirty work. as competitors, we always have to give back , not just to our own horses, but, to horses, in general. no doubt competiton will always emphasize big money and fancy horses, but to me, personally, that holds no interest. i'd rather hear the story of the underdog who came through in the end. that's the inspiration, and there is no greater underdog than the ottb.<br />
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bobbie is my only ottb, but not my last. i am looking for another one to bring along. i also have a qh, who is a great deal tb. bobbie was my first ottb and the one who made an everlasting and fundamental change to my belief system about horses and their treatment. bobbie retired from the track with a fractured pelvis and a blown suspensory. i rehabbed him twice. the first time i just didn't do things correctly. the second time things stuck : ) i evented him, did hunter shows on him and took him to a bunch of dressage competitions. he got me my first score to my usdf rider performance award at training level and a ton of awards at the local usdf gmo level. it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that even an ottb with substantial injury can go on and be a respectable mount for the adult amateur. i rehabbed him and retrained him on my own with help in the form of clinics from an event rider. he was never ridden professionally or handled professionally after he came from the track. he has lived on our private family farm almost the entire 10 years i've had him other than occassionally boarding out for the winter. he is retired now, but not due to his racing injuries. he developed terrible allergies about a year ago. we blood tested him and found out that he is allergic to hay. finding a feeding program for him, and medicating his allergies have been exhausting. he is getting better, but it is slow work.<br />
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thanks for your interest! i'm sure i have written way too much and in too much detail. can't wait to read your next blog! Every sense Lisa..would love…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-30:1773158:Comment:1456212009-08-30T15:12:42.311ZWilliam Micklemhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/williammicklem
Every sense Lisa..would love to know more about your work with OTTB s...could keep going for many weeks on breeding and assessing of horses but I promise you the next subject is more important...William
Every sense Lisa..would love to know more about your work with OTTB s...could keep going for many weeks on breeding and assessing of horses but I promise you the next subject is more important...William another great article. i'm sa…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-30:1773158:Comment:1456152009-08-30T14:06:46.768Zlisa rasmusonhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/lisarasmuson
another great article. i'm sad to see all this great research on the tb come to an end, but i'm curious to see what your next blog will be about : ) glad to see the arabian represented. i have had 2, a polish and an egyptian, and if it wasn't for the arabian we wouldn't have our wonderful tbs.<br />
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i agree that tb bloodlines should be included on a horse's passport. that greatly increases the education on bloodlines for the people buying warmbloods. i think when people are better educated about tb…
another great article. i'm sad to see all this great research on the tb come to an end, but i'm curious to see what your next blog will be about : ) glad to see the arabian represented. i have had 2, a polish and an egyptian, and if it wasn't for the arabian we wouldn't have our wonderful tbs.<br />
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i agree that tb bloodlines should be included on a horse's passport. that greatly increases the education on bloodlines for the people buying warmbloods. i think when people are better educated about tb bloodlines and their influence on breeding of warmbloods and other registries of horses, such as the quarter horse, then we have a better chance of really helping the off the track tbs that fall through the sporthorse crack.<br />
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the stigma of being an ottb is lessened greatly with education on tb bloodlines. it's great to talk about tbs and the influence of their bloodlines, but the really important work is making sure that ottbs don't fall through the cracks and get their opportunity to be retired from the track and go on to become good sport horses. that is where knowledge of bloodlines and helping the general riding public in gaining that education will make a huge difference for the outcome of these horses.<br />
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hope that i have made sense. i am in the middle of a barn renovation project and i've got the amish coming to my backyard tomorrow : ) You will know from my blogs h…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-28:1773158:Comment:1451992009-08-28T19:16:49.054ZWilliam Micklemhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/williammicklem
You will know from my blogs how successful High Top has become in the elite sport horse world...good luck with your breeding programme...send me a pic...William
You will know from my blogs how successful High Top has become in the elite sport horse world...good luck with your breeding programme...send me a pic...William Yes, my mare is out of Warnin…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-28:1773158:Comment:1451902009-08-28T18:39:46.074ZTerri Berwangerhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/TerriBerwanger
Yes, my mare is out of Warning Light by High Top, then Light Duty by Queen's Hussar, then Highlight, then Hypericum. Twilight is listed placed herself and is in foal to Manhattan.<br />
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Terri
Yes, my mare is out of Warning Light by High Top, then Light Duty by Queen's Hussar, then Highlight, then Hypericum. Twilight is listed placed herself and is in foal to Manhattan.<br />
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Terri Hypericum produced Highlight…tag:www.barnmice.com,2009-08-28:1773158:Comment:1451442009-08-28T18:10:07.906ZWilliam Micklemhttp://www.barnmice.com/profile/williammicklem
Hypericum produced Highlight who produced Highclere, owned by the Queen, who produced Height Of Fashion, the dam of Nashwan and other top horses...good blood by any definition! William
Hypericum produced Highlight who produced Highclere, owned by the Queen, who produced Height Of Fashion, the dam of Nashwan and other top horses...good blood by any definition! William