I have a beautiful 17" W black Thornhill Pro Trainer all purpose saddle for sale that I purchased 3 years ago. It's been well cared for and only has a small blemish on the seat and normal wear from stirrup leathers. Included is a white fleece show pad & breast collar - asking $595 OBO. I've loved this saddle, it's very comfy; I'm only selling it because I'm doing dressage now. Please email me at www.liveskinnynow.com for more information, thanks!