I dont know what to do. I want to help my fiances aunt to geld her two studs before anymore babies come along. She already cant afford to feed what she has and it looks like all her mares and donkey could possibly be bred. I cant afford to buy feed or pay for the surgeries since both are cryptos. Any ideas? I reached out to the sharing and caring group on facebook, but no response.

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Comment by Kate Green on November 26, 2012 at 11:46pm

I have made that point myself about them not having a voice of their own.  I have pointed out that they did not ask to be put inside of a fence and made to depend on humans for food, water, and hay.  When we chose to make them dependent, we must rise to the occasion and provide all that they need.  Lord knows I work my butt off for mine.  

Comment by Barbara F. on September 22, 2012 at 1:23pm

Ok, you NEED to call the humane society anonymously.

Please do it now.

If you do not speak up for these animals, no one will.

PLEASE don't watch them suffer and not have enough to eat. They have no voice to beg for more food and proper medical care and they can't just go get food for themselves or take themselves to the vet.

She won't know it was you who called and she should not have them under her care.

Comment by Kate Green on September 22, 2012 at 8:14am

She isnt willing to do anything, but complains when she pays vet fees. 

Comment by Jackie Cochran on September 21, 2012 at 1:29pm

I applaud you for wanting to help these equines.

This lady is legally responsible for these animals and their care.  I know this will sound nasty and that it may cause problems with your fiancee's family, but if the horses are in bad shape can you call in either the law or a humane society? 

It is generally considered very dangerous (for the stallions) to have two stallions running together.  As more and more equines crowd the pasture conflict is sort of unevitable.  This can also be dangerous for any people who try to stop the fighting.  Would she even be willing to pay the vet to stich up the survivor of an all out stallion fight?  That can be very expensive too.  From personal experience it can be very hard to get a stallion away from another horse he wants to fight (at least in my case the other horse was an elderly gelding.)  People can get hurt bad when they try.


Comment by Kate Green on September 21, 2012 at 11:43am

Our vet usually does standard gelding procedures for 175, and crypto gelding procedures for 400-600 in office. She refuses to separate her studs at all and when they do get isolated (such as when they are injured) she fails to compensate with feed and hay for not grazing. Her mares and one stud are in very bad condition and winter is coming. She had already had a mare miscarry a foal.  I want to help, but don't know how. The stallion to gelding fund is out of money for the year.  Trust me, I have explored the options.

Comment by Jackie Cochran on September 21, 2012 at 11:04am

The very first thing to do, if possible, is to separate the two studs from the rest of the horses.  If the fencing is not good enough consider the livestock panels, I managed to keep a stallion in a paddock made of these (there were mares next door, this can work)  though I had to make sure that the EVERY chain that attaches one panel to another was tied/wired off because my stallion was very creative.  You may also have to tie the gate to the hinges really well, one of my mares learned she could lift the gate off the hinges.

I am afraid that the operation to geld a stallion with retained testicles is expensive because the vet has to go inside the horse and it is harder to make sure that all the excess tissue is excised.  This means the vets often want the horse on an operating table.  It sure can get expensive having horses!

I'm sorry I can't help more.

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