Dressage - As It Was Done in the Baroque Period

Includes the backward canter, all the airs above ground, and utilization of the training.

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Comment by E. Allan Buck on August 29, 2011 at 1:53pm
Thank you Jackie.   Mr. Wolfgang Niggli states that the FEI rules are based upon de la Gueriniere's book.
Comment by Jackie Cochran on August 29, 2011 at 12:49pm

I was talking about Baroque riding and the airs that they did, a lot of which the Spanish Riding School dropped.

I do not think Gueriniere will give you much comfort about the head set.  I will have to re-read because somewhere I remember him saying that a deep jowl bone was a bad thing, probably because then the horse could not carry a vertical head, again I will have to reread both books to get the descriptions right.

Of course both books are translations, and words often change meaning over the centuries, and these people rode stallions a lot which means that their necks look a lot different than mares and geldings!  It will take me a while to get the information together. 

Comment by E. Allan Buck on August 29, 2011 at 12:16pm

Jackie

Could you email me the wording of Guerniniere that applies to the correct head carriage.  The reason I ask is the the FEI dressage rules are based upon his writings.  And I have discovered that Wolfgang Niggli is the reason we have the problem with the 'on the bit' frame.   I am putting a piece together showing how he is the direct and proximate cause to the ignoring of the required description of 'on the bit'.

Comment by Jackie Cochran on August 29, 2011 at 9:53am

The horses not only didn't have their heads on their throats, when ridden they kept proper head placement just on a CURB.  It IS possible to ride just on a curb and not have the horses over-flexed!

I've watched this video repeatedly.  THIS is what I've read about in Pluvinel and Gueriniere.

Comment by E. Allan Buck on August 28, 2011 at 9:00pm

Hey Mike;

Great video, but those 'modern' folks just might pick to pieces........LOL

Amazing that the "HEADS" of the horses are not in their throats.

Comment by Marlene Thoms on August 28, 2011 at 7:10pm

Very lovely to watch especially with the period costumes.

My horse does that canter on the spot thing when he's very excited, but not on command, maybe I can just reward him for it and call it training!

Comment by Michael Matson on August 28, 2011 at 2:12pm

My pleasure!

Comment by Jackie Cochran on August 28, 2011 at 2:02pm

Thank you for putting this video on.  It is so nice to see real dressage.

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