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Permalink Reply by E. Allan Buck on May 27, 2012 at 4:28pm

This is far from over.

I am filing criminal complaints against Prosecutor Anthony P. Kearns III with the N.J. State Attorney General's Office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States Attorney's Office for aiding and abetting Interstate Commerce deceptive trade practices which resulted in the physical abuse of a horse which involves interstate commmerce.

Permalink Reply by Marlene Thoms on May 27, 2012 at 5:43pm

So, horse owners and dressage hopefuls be fore warned. There are mysterious, as yet unidentified and unstudied cosmic rays or gasses lurking in enclosed training facilities which may STRIKE YOUR HORSE DOWN without warning. So far this effect does not seem to be species specific but pasture ponies, trail horses and wild equines seem to be completely unaffected. So all indications are that it occurs in otherwise perfectly healthy relatively young animals who happen to be involved in training of some sort. More information can really only be gained as more victims are affected, before some pattern or pathogen can be identified. At that point it could be years before a vaccine or feed supplemen could prove helpful. Currently watchful waiting is your only defense, and apparently even that has not helped some horses. If your horse should suddenly expire or develop strange neurological symptoms report them immediately to your vet, and the circumstances under which they occurred, so that this scourge can be idenified before it claims more victims.

Permalink Reply by E. Allan Buck on May 27, 2012 at 6:19pm

Wonderful Marlene  <>  May I use what you wrote, because it is so befitting the horse industry at large.?

Permalink Reply by Marlene Thoms on May 27, 2012 at 7:48pm

Sure, Allan. I don't know where you get the energy to keep trying to improve the situation, but more power to you. I am sick of all the horrible things that supposedly competent adults are doing to harm or neglect horses. I don't know how some people sleep at night being the source of pain suffering or neglect of animals that ask no more than the necessities of life and a little kindness. I am skeptical of the legal system's ability to change anything, but I would at least think professional organizations would step up and police the offenders. If soreing horses, for example, creates these unnatural gaits, why not just not allow the weird gaiting in a show? Then no one would be doing stupid horrible things to horses to produce the gait. They don't seem to be able to stop it by examining the horses for scars, or randomly turning up at training barns for signs of chemicals. So just somebody, please stop the insanity.

Permalink Reply by Jackie Cochran on May 27, 2012 at 7:11pm

I decided over 40 years ago that the only way to avoid this "unidentified" plague was to train my horses myself.  That way I knew that if anything went horribly wrong that it would be all my fault. 

I've had at least one breeder whose purchase contract had a clause that they (the breeder) had to approve if I sent the horse out to train, and I had one big, big BIG name trainer's farm specified by name just off the bat as a big no-no to the breeder.  The breeder had no problem with me training the horse, luckily.

I like your new avatar Allan, may it appear in all animal abuser's nightmares, relentlessly hunting them down, just like you do in real life.

Permalink Reply by E. Allan Buck on May 27, 2012 at 7:37pm

Thanks Jackie.   The avatar is a real representation of what I am.  So I like what you express....may it be in their nightmares.   LOL  Actually burned into their eyes so they look through it.......its a comin.  ;-))