Hi I was wondering on Coaches and Riders thoughts on the old school "Hard love Tuff Love Coaching" gosh its still alive and active, i thought those days had passed as i grew up but no they are alive. My question is when is it crossing the line? Has it gone too far in making the rider crack in silent tears because the Old school coach just patronized the crappers out of ya???Or seemed to be loudly mean?? is it done deliberately because the Coach has got the shits cause your just "not getting it" ?? or are they doing it to make you angry and fight for correctness and dig your heals in and "get it" . Should the rider just grow some grit and try harder? Do some Coaches burst the bubble deliberately in the rider as there teaching tool to bring submission? "Hard Tuff Coaching" is it still acceptable or has that gone with the "Fear Campaign of training", Do we just sit back and take this or do we approach the coach with our concerns or just grin and bear it and it will make you tougher.

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I'm of the belief that if you tear someone down you can get them to the point where they are afraid to make a move for fear of doing something wrong.
I prefer the approach:

1.Find something good that the rider is doing well and let them know so they feel that they are capable of SOMETHING.

2.Move on to the area that needs improvement and guide the rider as they feel their way to a better way of doing things.

3.Regroup and re-evaluate, then repeat as the rider progresses.

People do better when they feel confident and safe from ridicule.
Hi Barbara
thanks for your reply it is really great, i have moved the discussion to the Forum would you be able to put your reply up on that discussion, that would be great thanks.
Hi Rachel, I'm glad you have brought this up. This type of instruction started with the military , and that's were it should have stayed!! There is no place at all for this kind of behaviour in coaching. Some times you are going to get tears in your pupils, simply because they may be frightened, or frustrated because they are trying so so hard to do what the coach wants, BUT NEVER should the coach be patronizing or mean,or trying to make you angry. Rarely do angry riders produce good results, no that's not write, NEVER DO ANGRY RIDERS GET GOOD RESULTS!!! As a coach I have had pupils in tears, but when this happens you must stop and find out why, console the pupil ,give some words of encouragement and rebuild the confidence ,not belittle them. Being a good coach is about observation, and not just in the horse's responses but how the rider is travelling also. Unfortunately there are still a few old fossils , well past there use by date, that resort to this type of coaching. The thing is they don't do it with every pupil , something clicks in their fossilised brain cells and the crabby britches kicks in. There seems to be no rhyme or reason, they just pick someone out that day to be the whipping boy\girl. What can you do . Well the best thing to do is go and get your child and remove them from the class. Not much point in saying much to the coach, as they will have a well rehearsed response to justify their method . Be polite but firm and leave , never to return!!! Cheers Geoffery
Hi Geoff Can you please put your reply above on the forum, i moved the discussion to the forum. thanks Rach

And to add Well said Geoff........ Army Yes i see the connection, boot camp with the intimidation, the well rehearsed response is most interesting something i will remember. And YES dont do the class as you said if you havent got a good repore with the coach dont go. Can you please put this reply on the forum, i moved the discussion to the forum. thanks Rach
How do you do that with out typing the thing again?
copy and paste, eg keep this window open, open another window with the forum page reply area highlight what you want to copy by keeping mouse clicked and down and then paste in the new reply window .walla all done
Do what???? If I open the window the flies get in!! You'll have to show me next time you are here
hey Geoff, haha if ya open the window the flies get in , holy moley yes will have to show you no worries cheers Rach
geoff she is saying high light the text, then right click, click copy, then go to the forums, and in the text box, right click and click paste. hope that helps
Thanks Amber , thats what I needed to know , I might be OK with horses but I'm rubbish with computers!!
yes there is my echo thanks Amber

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