EVEN MARK TODD CAN BE LED ASTRAY – Part 4

It is to the advantage of the European stud books to be quiet about their thoroughbred genes as they develop their highly successful brands…and that is what most have become. They are often presented as breeds but in fact they are brands, and part of a marketing system rather than a method of showing the true breeding of horses. A number of leading sires are even approved by all the major European stud books, and therefore have registered offspring in different stud books. In addition many elite warm blood performers actually carry a majority of Thoroughbred blood, despite being registered as Selle Francais, Holstein, Dutch (KWPN), Westphalian or Hannoverian.

ONE BRAND – DIFFERENT PRODUCTS

This is because the major warm blood stud books are not closed in the same way as the Thoroughbred General Stud Book, and they have all consistently used thoroughbred blood in a major way to improve their breeds over the last 60 years. This is understandable and sensible …however the problem for the unwary is that under the same brand you can get a vast range of different types, from full thoroughbred to no thoroughbred. So in fact when someone tells you on the telephone that they have bought, for example, a Holsteiner, it is actually impossible for you to know what type of horse this is.

WHEN STUD BOOKS BECOME A BRAND

A good recent example of the success of branding was the huge publicity the Selle Francais stud book received in all the UK national newspapers and equestrian magazines when one of their stallions, Jaguar Mail, was chosen as the sire for Lucinda Frederick’s Headley Britannia, winner of both Burghley and Rolex three day events. Three healthy foals were actually produced by surrogate mothers this year, and understandably the whole project has further fuelled the British enthusiasm for using Selle Francais sires.

However the truth is that Jaguar Mail is six eights pure thoroughbred, one eights Hannoverian and only one eights Selle Francais…. and this Selle Francais, Alme, is three quarters thoroughbred! So Jaguar Mail is actually seven eights thoroughbred when you add in the thoroughbred from his one eights Hanoverian influence. What is also interesting is that this Hanoverian also contains a little American Quarter Horse and a little more Shagya Arab in it’s pedigree, so once again there is some X factor.

Some say that this thoroughbred blood is irrelevant if it comes from the great grandfather or great grandmother, but make no mistake if, for example, the 8 great grandparents of a horse are half thoroughbred and half other breeds then this is exactly what you will get in the offspring…thoroughbred genes do not just disappear!

OKI DOKI – THE ULTIMATE MUTT!

It is also worth making the point that even when the % of thoroughbred blood is less than 50% it may still be the biggest single percentage from any one stud book. It is said that the most valuable horse in the world is the Dutch show jumper Oki Doki, ridden by Albert Zoer. Although he is only 43.8 thoroughbred this is a majority as his remaining genes are a mixture of Arab, Holstein, Oldenburg, Hanoverian, East Prussian, Trakenher, Selle Francais, Trotter & Dutch …...and just 4.7 % Dutch!

WOMEN OF SUBSTANCE – GREAT DAMS

In these blogs I have focussed on sires rather than dams for the obvious reason that successful stallions can have a much greater impact on the international herd than mares because of the sheer numbers of their offspring. This should not detract from the huge importance of paying as much attention to the suitability of the mare as to the stallion. It is often said that the mare is worth more than the stallion, however the science would suggest that BOTH sire and dam need to be good.

Unfortunately it is true that many mares of unsuitable temperament become brood mares and this remains a problem. Equally I look at mares and stallions in a similar way from a training point of view and I believe that a number of mares are labelled ‘difficult’ when in reality it is the limited ability of their handlers that create many of the problems. Geldings tend to be more forgiving and long suffering.

HIGH DOLLY

I was very lucky to find my own foundation mare High Dolly. She was by Chair Lift, the famous show jumping sire, who is a grandson of Hyperion. Chair Lift was the dam sire of Irish Olympic horse Carling King (4th individually in Athens) and sire of Abbervail Dream, who holds the record for Nations Cups appearances for the British team. High Dolly is also related to the famous army equitation school showjumper Kilbaha ridden by John Ledingham. Kilbaha was by Tudor Rocket, whose grandsires were Buisson Ardent, also the grandsire of Chair Lift, and Owen Tudor, a son of Hyperion. Kilbaha was also out of a Rhett Butler mare and Rhett Butler’s dam grandsire was High Hat the sire of Chair Lift. Then there are a number of other connections through Pharos and Blandford.

Most importantly High Dolly was out of a Prefairy mare. Prefairy was by Precipitation, the sire of one of my five stallion Gods, Furioso. This also gives another tie in to Carling King, because Carling Kings ‘Irish Draught’ sire Clover Hill was in fact by the TB Golden Beaker, whose grandsire was the Precipitation son Preciptic. In addition Abbervail Dream’s dam also had a cross of Precipitation. Not only was Prefairy a champion National Hunt sire his dam and Furioso's dam were related through Son-In-Law and a little dash of The Tetrarch. There was also the bonus in Prefairy's dam of a cross of Foxhunter the grandsire of Rantzau. Then when I put High Dolly to the Irish thoroughbred Master Imp I also got a double cross of Tourbillon, an extra two crosses of Hyperion and a extra pinch of The Tetrarch…and obviously the whole combination works well together seeing the performance of Mandiba with Karen O’Connor and High Kingdom with Zara Phillips. Here are two of last years pictures of Mandiba, who is owned by the wonderful Joan Goswell. He is due to compete at Burghley 4* next month.


See the way he can use the front end like a real jumper. Here is High Kingdom as a 3 year old showing his exceptional jumping ability. These horses are 15/16th thoroughbred.


A MULTI- DISCIPLINE APPROACH TO BREEDING

In these days of specialisation it is rare to breed horses for more than one main discipline. However I believe that by aiming towards more than one we actually strengthen the breed and produce a more flexible and usable horse. There are already too many horses with one-dimensional limited lives and unbalanced physical characteristics. Mandiba is an eventing horse of the highest calibre and has the potential to rise to a high level in dressage, while High Kingdom could be a top horse in either show jumping or eventing. A multi-discipline approach to breeding certainly gives added value to many horses and bigger dreams for their connections. What a great aim it is to breed one with the flexibility to work at a high level in all three disciplines….and the key to this is the thoroughbred blood that has already shown itself to be successful in all three major disciplines.

YOU NEED THE MIND AND THE BODY

Apart from her athletic ability and great paces it was High Dolly’s attitude that made all the difference. She had an extraordinary gentleness yet this was combined with courage and a forward attitude, all of which she seems to have passed on. So I now have a full sister of Mandiba, Nuff Kisses, producing some truly exceptional young stock of her own ….including three fillies who I am sure will in turn make great brood mares. I also have a full brother of Mandiba, Jackaroo, who I intend to use as a stallion. I am a lucky man indeed.

If you find a good mare from a family that breeds true then you will dramatically increase your odds of breeding good stock. However these good or even great mares often become anonymous in our sire oriented world.

VALINE & VIOLA

So who has heard of Viola and Valine? Viola (1961) and Valine (1961) are both by the thoroughbred Cottage Son and their joint influence and families are now huge but largely unheralded. Viola is the dam of Lord, who has 48 approved stallion sons, and Valine is the dam of Ramiro Z, arguably the most influential jumping stallion ever. (Interestingly he is also one eights Arab through his grandsire Ramzes, who was by the thoroughbred Rittersporn.) Ramiro Z’s famous daughter, the double Olympic Individual Gold Medalist Ratina Z (1981), has been called mare of the century and her extended family are breeding sensations, including her full brother standing in Ireland Ricardo Z. Ricardo Z has produced top performers in both Eventing and Horse Trials as well as some traditional top show hunters. Apart from Cottage Son he carries the genes of the thoroughbreds Rittersporn, The Last Orange and Ultimate. This family breeds true and talented without a shadow of a doubt.

SELENE AND MUMTAZ MAHAL

….or what about Selene and Mumtaz Mahal? Selene (1919) was by Chaucer and a top class racehorse. As a broodmare she produced sons that had dramatic implications on the thoroughbred breed both in the short and long term. She produced fourteen foals, four of which, Hyperion, Sickle, Pharamond, & Hunter's Moon became outstanding international sires, while her daughter All Moonshine became the dam of the important stallion Mossborough.

Mumtaz Mahal (1921) was dubbed "the Flying Filly" after this daughter of The Tetrarch proved herself one of the fastest two-year-olds ever. She became one of the Aga Khan’s most important foundation mares. Her descendants, including Mahmoud, Nasrullah, Royal Charger, Abernant, Petite Etoile, and Shergar, spread her influence around the world, making her one of the most important broodmares of the 20th Century. But we just hear of the sires because a top sire will always get the publicity

GALILEO & SEA THE STARS

Currently Derby winners Galileo and Sea the Stars are probably two of the top 10 most valuable racehorses or stallions in Europe, each valued at over €40m, yet few would know they share a dam……the Miswaki mare Urban Sea (who goes back to Sickle, Mumtaz Muhal x 2, Fair Play x 2, Teddy x 6, Phalaris x 5, Blandford x 6, & Hyperion.) Yes the quality of the dam does matter and the old adage…’breed the best you have with the best you can find and hope for the best’ makes real sense for breeding any type of horse.

THE SUPERSTAR FOR THE AVERAGE PLEASURE RIDER

To finish I need to emphasize something of the greatest importance. Although I have been in the main writing about elite horse breeding, it is undoubtedly true that MOST OF US DON’T WANT OR NEED AN ELITE PERFORMER …this I recognise totally. I know that many of us are safer with smaller and less high-powered horses, as long as they have a good temperament…but the key point is that these horses can be bred as well. I’ll write more about this over the next two weeks, but in the meantime thank goodness for all the thousands of superstar pleasure riding horses and ponies. They bring as much if not more joy and satisfaction than an elite performer and they are at the heart of both real horsemanship and good sport. Happy Days, William

www.WilliamMicklem.com

Next week…...why TB's may be safer and the connection between dressage and jumping …my apologies as I ran out of space this week.

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Comment by lisa rasmuson on August 11, 2009 at 8:00pm
another great article, thanks for the continuing education into tb bloodlines and their influence on the warmblood. i'm so glad to see people stepping forward to recognize these horses so they receive the credit they are due.
Comment by William Micklem on August 10, 2009 at 8:24pm
....and so we live and learn, although I prefer it a little cooler...I wonder if you are going to WEG next year...I hope Mandiba and Karen O'Connor will make the USA team and I aim to be there...perhaps we could cheer him on together. William
Comment by vineyridge on August 10, 2009 at 8:05pm
Viney Ridge is a cotton farm in Mississippi. I've lived on it for most of my life, it's both home and a bit of heaven to me. Horribly hot right now, but the crops are thriving.

Thoroughbred history has been an obsession of mine for almost ten years now. At one point, I wondered if it were possible to identify where the jump genes originated, but other than the Alexander Mare family (Selim, Castrel, Bronze and the Orville Mare, which get you to so many great jumping horses and progenitors like The Flying Dutchman), it looks as if Touchstone might be one of the most important ancient influences. And since all TBs eventually get back to sharing 60% or more of their genetic material if you go back far enough, I've come to the conclusion that most TBs are likely to make good lower level sport horses with the proper training, and the really top quality ones are likely to pop up if the helixes mix and match from the first nine or so generations.

In order to concentrate the genes linebreeding/inbreeding/duplication would seem to be essential.
Comment by William Micklem on August 10, 2009 at 4:28pm
What a truly great family from Concertina....thank you for yet more great information...you are obviously a great student of the thoroughbred and you have wide knowledge...I hope to meet you one day to stand on your shoulders and learn more...what or where is vineyridge?.....what is interesting is that most of the NH brood mares in Europe are now from the flat but with specific families, and they have realised that the slightly smaller horses steeplechasing today are sounder and better balanced. Kindest regards, William
Comment by vineyridge on August 10, 2009 at 1:18pm
I actually found a tail female (4th) descendant of All Moonshine and was sorely tempted to get her as well. She even looked like Selene.
Comment by vineyridge on August 10, 2009 at 1:15pm
Just a bit on one lovely mare family--Concertina.
She was the dam of Plucky Liege, a truly great TB broodmare. Another daughter, Garron's Lass was the dam of Friar's Daughter, dam of both Bahram and Dastur and many other TBs who are quite wonderful to find in Sport Horse Pedigrees.

To my thinking, the mares are every bit as important as the stallions, but they get very little attention--at least in the United States. Perhaps one reason is that we don't not have NH breeding; our chasers are, in general, the less successful flat racers, so we don't have the stockpile of mares with jumping breeding that Ireland, the UK and France do.
Comment by William Micklem on August 8, 2009 at 7:51pm
Great to hear both your support and about your horse...I really like Able Albert...but will enough people read these blogs??? The very best of luck. William
Comment by Ginny Smith on August 8, 2009 at 3:46pm
I'm really excited to have come across this and find the series fascinating. It really needed someone with your knowledge to redress the balance a little against the people on forums in both the US and UK who seem very determined to dismiss the critical role that TBs had and still have on the top bloodlines in eventing and showjumping

We have now had two foals from our ISH mare (Able Albert XX x Diamond Lad) and both in her own right, through Able Albert (whose pedigree contains many of the names that you mention above), and the stallions that we have put her to, connects with the bloodlines that you mention. Her latest foal is by the young half-blood Zangersheide stallion Amiro Z (Amigo Toss XX x Renommee Z, full sister to Ratina Z), and looks as though he is going to be a real cracker.
Comment by William Micklem on August 8, 2009 at 8:53am
Oh Roland I am so sorry for you...such a heart breaker....we live in such a fragile world and the good days and good memories need to be treasured...I am sure you have many wonderful memories from your brood mare and I am sure you gave her a good life...I hope you can find more of her family even if it means going back in the breeding a little...fortunate are the horses that have someone like you to appreciate them. William
Comment by Roland Hardman on August 8, 2009 at 8:26am
These articles have been very interesting and informative and have given me insight into the art of breeding. Sadly I have just lost my broodmare to colic.
She was a beautiful 17h tb/wb and was in foal to a great tb stallion.
Both sire and dam are great horses with wonderful temprements.
She issadly missed and pretty much irreplaceable!!
Keep up the good work
Roland

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