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Trainers and mentors. Do you follow one or many?
How do you know the trainer/mentor is right for you and your horse? Who is your favorite and why?
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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Lamm on
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Yes, I've been on him... :) but I don't think it's the best time for me yet till I get a bit more respect out of him and I feel more confident... he is just nice to me and likes me is all. :)
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Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Pannell on
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I have to share this , a couple of months ago I had an invitation to a clinic with Coleen Kelly. I went along to have a look as my interest was aroused by her ideas with the relationship between the Bio-mechanics of both animals , horse and human. She had some interesting exersices and I found it useful enough to want to explore more.So I organsed for her to do a clinic at my place, got some of my pupils to ride in a lesson and a heap to watch. Also had a lesson myself. Much to my pupils amusment, Coleen set about getting me to do all the same things I have my regulars do all the time , look up, sit up ,leg position, the whole box and dice. Then she had me do something so completely alien to me , I thought she had lost her marbles!!!!! She wanted me to spit in his ear to get him to go!!! --------- OK , let me explain that. She didn't actually want me to hack a loogy in his ear. Just make the sound psst, like air escapeing from a tyre. At the same time flicking the outside rein at his neck. Initially to make him turn when approaching the rail. So , I thought , oh well I've thrown that lesson money in the bin!!! OK so I gave it a try, guess what , he turned , no surprise there. She got me to do that a few times to make some square turns . Then we had to use NO LEGS AT ALL , something alien to me, to get him to trot, after a couple of goes he trots, now into canter , same way, jumped into nicely. Now Coleen got me to not flick the the rein ,just spit in his ear, PSST, forward to walk, PSST, forward to trot, PSST, forward to canter, VERY EASY NO RESISTING. Now I have to say , it works very well, every time I went PSST he was off like a bucket of prawns in the sun. In the past we had been haveing a few issues with the odd pig root when asking for the canter, doesn't do that now. I have been using this with a couple of the school horses here and it's working a treat. The pupils leg position stays more still , they are sitting better and more still , I have to say I'm gobsmacked that this works so well. One of my problems as a rider has always been that I do have a tendency to over ride at times . Well ,I went showjumping the other day and if I felt my horse back off a little infront of a jump , I just spat in his ear and away we went, no over riding at all!!! -------------------- Now I'll leave others to decide if I have gone doolally, clearly I'm not in a position to judge my sanity, BUT IT WORKS I SAY!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Shirley on
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I wish I had a video of this to hear and see exactly what you are doing! How cool! Now that seems like a new concept!
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Now I need your help in a different way!
"Off like a bucket of prawns in the sun"~
"odd pig root"~
"gobsmacked"~
"doolallya"~
I love hearing the little differences in our speech from around the world....that is when I can understand the jist of things rather then a lanquage I totally can not understand at all. Maybe I can introduce some of these in my neighborhood if I know what they mean.
Cheers again.
If each of our cheers was shared with a glass of wine, we'd be getting pretty tipsey...LOL And then I could chill-out and you could run threw the woods naked....jest a bit of fun! Remember you said no one would make me go along as it might scare the horses.
I am off to bed! It is 4 a.m. here and I did this last night too. This can't continue!! But it was so much fun!!
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OK Shirley, I'll translate for you. Old Tosh is a load of old rubbish. Off like a bucket of prawns in the sun , well how FAST would a bucket of prawns go off if you left them in the sun!! A pig root is a small buck when the front legs don't come off the ground. Gobsmacked, your gob is your mouth, so it's like you have been smacked in the mouth as a surprise, subsitute surprised for gobsmacked. Doolally, off with the pixies, gone a bit strange but in a funny way. Hope that helps you understand the strange and wonderful language that is Aussie. I wiil try and put some vision of me or my pupils spitting in the ears of our horses. If I can just find enough sponges!!! Nice horse by the way, do tell.
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Permalink Reply by Fiona Hill on
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Geoffrey you are hilarious - although I feel I understand you a little better than poor Shirley! Never heard 'off like a bucket of prawns in the sun' though ... probably fits better with the Aussie climate - love it! Your description of 'spitting' in the horses' ears was priceless! I do remember in the olden days when I first learned to ride that a sure fire way of getting my pony to go over a jump was to go 'PSHHHT' really loudly - so I guess like you say none of it is new ideas!
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Michigan will soon have lots of scenes like this pic taken last fall.
Thanks for the translations, Geoffrey. How fun... I love to hear someone talk Aussie.
I guessed the 'doolally' correctly.
I could not think what a 'prawn' is. I've heard the term here but it's not common. Probably more commonly used by the seacoast. I think it was used often when we were in New Orleans.
I believe I have heard 'pig root' here but did not have time to inquire to it's meaning. It's sorta difficult to interrupt someone when they are telling you of some misbehavior of their horse if they've been pig rooting cause many of the women I know would be all dramatic about it.
Gobsmacked is my favorite!
Part of what I can't picture with spitting in the horses ear is that when riding you are at the back of their ear so maybe you do this on the back-side of their ear? Sometimes when I see western riders do barrel racing or something of that sort they will make a noise that "might" be similar to your new technique? I guess sometimes 'old' is 'new' again.
My husband is about to cry. There is a few fall leaves dropping and he can't stand the thought of summer ending. Fall is my favorite season. You'd never know there is such a thing as global warming if you were here this past summer. Very much cooler then normal. But we had a mild winter too.
The horse is my circus/trick horse...Cash. LOL We joke about him being our only Cash left. I got him at age 3 when I was 53. I had not ridden since I was 19 when I sold my horse of 2 years & started raising my family. And I hesitate calling even that riding cause basically she took me for rides rather then me riding her. Cash is very different then my other horse. Much kinder. He bores easily in an arena situation unless I get out toys for us to play with...cones, barrels, poles, etc. He likes to side-pass and spin. His favorite thing is to get up on his little log and instantly grow six inches. I suspect he'd like being a real ranch horse and herd cows or something similar. He was well trained when I got him but we still had all those stages of growing up to get through. And of course there was little of that 'been there-done that' He seems to know when he needs to take care of me and when he needs to push me to progress. Now I need to have enough confidence to get away from the barn-yard. At least he's not barn or buddy sour. He usually comes to the pasture gate when he hears me arrive and just recently he has started nickering as he comes....I Love That!!!!!!
He was shown in Buckskin futurity classes and he and his half brother alternated taking 1st and reserve. I let a friend show him at Buckskin Shows the summer he was 4. He was new at this and the young rider was new at showing but we still came home with a few ribbons 2nd to 4th place in classes of 8 or more so that was exciting. The plan was for me to ride him at the end of the show season but then I broke my ankle and had surgery with plates and pins and all that stuff so I couldn't really show. But I did continue to ride... cast and all... most every day except for the first two weeks when the doc said "NO" . That was when Cash showed what a good babysitter he can be. I often think he deserves a better rider but no one could love him more then I do and I do continue to progress and am proud to say I've survived a couple nasty falls without breaking or giving up. If I live to tell...it will be a grand journey.
Well that might be more then you wanted to hear me tell but that's my basic horse history to present day.
Have a great ride!
Shirley
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I loved your story Shirley!!
ponyboy teaches you to move your horse with your mind, but actually it is just energy.... I can totally do it.... it is slow and methodical, but it works...... I put my horse in the place I want him to be, I move his feet by looking at them and forwarding the energy.... :) totally can Geoffrey... I challenge you to a load of rubbish challenge, LOL... :)
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When I say it's aload of old tosh, I don't mean to say it cant' be done ,I just don't need to be able to do it . It's not something that I see as an important training tool. It's clever and all that but it's not going to help me jump 1.30m. I want my horse to move when I shift my weight and give it an aid. Having said that though, I can get a canter by spitting in his ear!!!! . LOL
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Wow, I'd think that visualization and focused energy would be a big part of jumping. :)
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Well , you can visulise for ever and a day, but in the end if you want to undo a nut and bolt you have to put a spanner on it!! It's a bit too hocus-pocus for me, I'm a hands on get em dirty type of bloke.lol
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Permalink Reply by Marti Langley on
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Shirley, funny, you are off to bed at 4 am, and some mornings I wake up at 4 am, lol!! Usually whenever the dueling roosters start. Sometimes they let me sleep till 6:30!
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