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OEF supports horse slaughter. Do you?
The latest edition of OEF WHOA has a 2 page article (p 48) strongly in favour of horse slaughter. This article completely contradicts what the CBC documentray showed so vividly or the existence of the Canadian Horse Defense Coalition. What do you think of this?
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Permalink Reply by Geoffrey Pannell on
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Sorry Alyssa to burst your bubble, but the dog food you get your mother to buy , unless you are buying it from a butcher and it's not in a tin , is most deffinatly a mix of horse and beef . They don't have to label it as horse . Each year ABOUT 20 -30 THOUSAND TB horses are born in this country. Only about 10% make it to the race track, maybe another 10% go to show homes ,where do you think the rest go? We don't live in fairy land , how could we look after that many unwanted horses. I have seen first hand what happens when well meaning people try, after they run out of money to feed them they are left to fend for them selfs, and it is not pretty to see horses starving , not haveing their feet looked after ,not getting wormed. I would much rather a quick death in a slaughter yard, they don't kill them with a blunt fork you know, than a long lingering death by starvation and neglect. I 'M sorry if that sounds a bit hard, but I just can't sit back and say nothing when people talk about this. It's something I'm quite passionate about , there are going to be some who will be just as passionate about the other view. All I ask is that they think about how they are to protect those millions , yes millions , of unwanted horses . I know a quick death is far better than the alternative. Cheers GEOFFREY
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Permalink Reply by Dorothy McDonall on
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I'm going to agree with you, Geoffrey. As horrible an ending as horse slaughter is, it is preferable to submitting horses to a long painful death due to neglect. My only concern is that the horses be treated as humanely as possible til their last breath. They are owed that at the very least. Dorothy
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Permalink Reply by Alyssa Penney on
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its alright geoff :)
after reading that, it actually makes sense.
and hey, being my instructor, you're allowed to be hard on me sometimes :P haha
but yes, after reading that, i now realise, that not everyone can own a horse, and therefore the starving would surely happen.
i guess i just dont agree with slaughtering horses for no reason..i dont know, but im sure it'll all work out. as most things tend to do :)
xx Alyssa
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Permalink Reply by Zoe Brooks on
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Hi Folks,
It was very interesting to hear your replies. I was planning to be at the OEF conference to talk to folks in person, but unfortunately our plans have changed and we will not be able to attend.
Just my opinion, but .... regardless of right or wrong, I do not think that such a pro-slaughter position is appropriate for the OEF. I have heard of several members who intend to withdraw from the organization because of this, so it cannot be good for the OEF. I wonder if it is even within their defined legal purpose? They did not respond to my message requesting that information.
I think it was irresponsible journalism for the OEF to report only one side of the story in a member publication.
They say double decker trailers are not legal in Canada, yet we saw them being unloaded on CBC. The law is apparently not enforced.
They saw no cruelty, but the CBC showed us cruelty.
Most people think that the majority of horses slaughtered are ones that cannot be cared for. A Temple Grandin study on the transport of slaughter horses found only 7.7% of the horses arriving at slaughter fit a classic description of unwanted.
Using USDA documents related to the breeds of horses slaughtered and thoroughbred breeding records, one can estimate 37% of thoroughbred racehorses are slaughtered.
I wonder how many people would send their horse to auction of they had to sign that they are aware there is 50% chance their horse will end up at slaughter.
I attached some files that I received from the Canadian Horse Defense Coalition. I wish they had a summary and action plan.
I believe there is a better solution than slaughter. If we work together we can find it! Just my two cents worth!
Zoe - Attachments:
![Unwanted_horses_and_what_to_do3[1].doc](http://static.ning.com/socialnetworkmain/widgets/forum/gfx/fileicons/doc.gif?xn_version=3939154593)
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Permalink Reply by Kat on
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I agree with Alyssa horse slaghter isn't right I alwys believe theres a home for every horse in this world! I love my horse and pony and when I red that article it just didn't seem right! I think horse slaghter should be stoped and I think they should have a adoption center for horses that arn't wanted anymore or never where insed of going to slaghter!
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Please someone explain to me why it is such a problem slaughtering horses and not cattle, pigs, goats , sheep, chickens. Is everyone a vegan? Do people not own dogs and cats? What do you think is in dog food? Like I SAID BEFORE they don't get killed with a blunt fork ! The problem that I would like people to think of ,is the transport of horses to slaughter! That's the real problem , YOU CAN'T TRUCK HORSES LIKE CATTLE. That is the thing that people should be putting their energy into ,because you are not going to change a culture of a thousand and more years of eating horses in Euroupe and Asia. Really it is a matter of tolerence of other cultures, who am I to say that one group of people must stop doing something that isn't harming anyone else, or doing damage to the enviroment. Some cultures view horse meat as a valid sourse of protein. Perhaps we , those that love horses, should take a step back emotionally and look at the bigger picture. TAKE A MORE TOLERENT VIEW! No one is going to MAKE you eat your's or any one else's horse. I DON'T EAT HORSE MEAT BUT I WILL DEFEND THOSE THAT DO , AS LONG AS IT IS QUICK AND CLEAN FOR THE HORSE .
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Permalink Reply by Rachel on
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In our society in Australia cattle are bred for meat, dogs are bred for pets and horses are bred for riding. Our horses have a name and the cattle in the paddock do not. This is a social moral issue. Otherwise horse meat would be on the menu at maccas and it isnt. Society doesnt accept it but is submissive about it!
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A great gal in Germany sent me a very old quote saying "A long period of thinking a thing not wrong gives it a semblance of being right." In my opinion, horse slaughter is not right. Not here, not in this society. We are better than that! Or at least we can and should be. Zoe
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Permalink Reply by Sandy on
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Wow, this is such a sensitive subject. Yes, I wish I could be a vegan, and of course I could if I tried, but I am not. Same thought sas Zoe, the cows/cattle in the field do not have names, they are there for the purpose of milk or meat. We don't send our dogs and cats to the slaughter houses when we find them no longer useful. In fact, I don't see many organizations for horse rescue or adoption in Canada, but more of these organizations in the US.
No they aren't slaughtered with a fork, but how are they slaughtered and how are they handled prior to that?? Is it all humane. We know how sensitive a horse is mentally compared to cattle. It's horrifying to think of the horse's emotional state when entering a slaughter facility, or even the travel to it.
I recently had to argue at a family supper about allowing/on my part NOT allowing, a family member to hunt deer on my property. I know my boarders would not agree with that practice, and they (and myself) would be horrified to see someone pull out of my driveway with a deer strapped to the roof of a vehicle. No, this is not going to happen on my property. As one of my boarder's says, everyone needs to do their part. She is a vegan, and I am not allowing hunting. Just one little thing to for each of us to contribute towards animal welfare in one way or another.
Slaughter of horses is not necessary, there are all kinds of people out there who would love to have a horse that cannot afford anything fancy, but just for pleasure. Horse is NOT on the menu in North American restaurants. This is socially wrong, just like dog and cat and certain other animals are not on the menu.
As for horses left neglected, well this also is not acceptable and is illegal and needs better enforcement, and much stronger punishment. By saying slaughter is wrong, does not say neglect is right. Not to say we need to stop horse slaughter altogether, since it is an industry that likely will continue to exist, but manage the methods, as necessary.
OEF would have done better to just stay off of this subject altogether! I am not impressed to hear that they 'support' slaughter.
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Its not about right or wrong. This is a issue that swings back and forth. UN fortunately ....The truth is horses are slaughtered at meat works all the time. Dont like it well change the community you live in by doing something about it. Educate yourselves and educate your community.
This is a social versus commercial issue in many cases and it happens all the time. This is a passionate issue because its logical versus philosophical. Its a bit like asking do you believe in god? Its a tuff world we live in. Life is not meant to be easy!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Madonna Decker on
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I am a supporter of the OEF on this one.
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